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PAIN IN THE NECK

70 points posted to Monitors and Displays by marcy May 21

Can you manufacture a dell flat screen monitor which lies on a desk so those of us who wear biofocals will not endure neck pain the entire work day?

The depth could be thicker to allow venting on the sides and cords on the back.

What do you think?

Have a Dell of a day !

aikiwolfie
May 22
How does this help people who wear bifocals?
phubert
May 23
Good question... and why the heck don't more people get Varilux or other 'blended' technologies? I think they're great!

...anyway, MY desk is FAR too cluttered to have ROOM for a monitor flat against its surface! :-D
kenjennings
May 23
@marcy: Are you saying you want the LCD display to lay flat on a desk?
Or you want the LCD height adjustment to go all the way down desk level.

I'd vote for the latter. The visible LCD display on all the LCD monitors I have (mostly Dell) get no lower than 6 inches from the desktop. I'd prefer it go all the way down until the panel touches the stand.
aikiwolfie
May 23
I still don't understand how this helps people with bifocals? This is unbearable! I require information! :o)
dawn_l
Jun 5
Aikiwolfie- I know from some old ergonomics training that the lower you can get the monitor for people with bifocals the less they have to lean their head back to see through the bottom of their glasses. Glasses are more made for writing and reading than the location of a computer monitor. Interesting idea... let me share it around!
Thanks,
Dawn
dawn_l
Jun 5
Marcy-
What about a monitor that could disconnect from the base and be "propped up" to an almost flat but leaning position?
Thanks,
Dawn
paperpilot
Jun 5
I had the bifocal problem and solved it with a DELL monitor and computer glasses. It took three or four tries with DELL to get an LCD monitor that will lower far enough (the lower edge of the monitor almost touches the desk). It didn't require laying the monitor flat on the desk.
aikiwolfie
Jun 5
LOL thanks dawn. Nice to see you posting. :oD I guess I'm just not old enough to understand all this olden-days stuff :op. It would probably just be easier for Dell to manufacture a new base. I'll go invent something for you :oD
gerrygiese
Jun 10
I promoted this, but with caveats. Laying an LCD down to a more horizontal orientation affects you because of the viewing angle. Not all LCDs have a good up/down viewing angle. Typically, and especially for TVs, the concern is with the side to side viewing angle.

Anyway, to prevent viewing angle issues you would need to move the monitor closer to you, which then gets in the way of a comfortable typing position, or have a slightly larger monitor and prop it up somehow. One way this has been solved in the past is actually mounting the monitor under the desk and viewing it through a sheet of glass or plexiglass, which are more likely to get scratched up and also cause reflection problems with overhead lights.

The best thing I can think of for Dell to consider is to sell a mounting point adapter with a hinge at the top and an adjustable length rail with a mounting point at the bottom, and allow the vertical adjustment length to go down *below* the level of the desk. Using the hinge, it could then prop the monitor screen on the desk at a variety of angles, depending on how much vertical adjustment is allowed. If nothing else, it would allow the monitor screen to slide all the way down to rest on the foot of the original base.

The only issue I can see is the need for an appropriately shaped underside to the monitor screen so that rubber feet could be applied at those varieties of angles without having to be mounted on a corner (and likely fall off). The rubber feet are important to make sure the monitor stays put an even more so for vibration dampening. A bit of curve to the backside corner edge of the monitor screen's underside would work. It the part of the monitor that nobody is likely to see, so there's no real cosmetic issue with doing that. Another way of solving the problem is to have the adapter use an extension with rubber feet, so that it rests on the desk, not the screen itself, but that requires more material, and would also need to be adjustable to match the monitor screen size.
jimmy_p
Jun 19
I borrowed my wife’s bifocals and found that if I put the top of the monitor at eye level I could hold my head straight and see the monitor through the bottom lens perfectly. Now being the one finger typest I am I tend to be looking up at the monitor and down at the keyboard so that might not work for me. I would probably just get a pair of single lens glasses to wear at the computer.
aikiwolfie
Jun 19
That can really mess up your eyes dude. Besides you clearly don't need bifocals so how you see things through them will be different from how people who actually need then will see through them.
paperpilot
Jun 20
@jimmy_p now you can see my problem. I had to try four different DELL monitors to find one that could be lowered far enough to work with my bifocals.
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