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tleavit
04/05/07
I’m going to have to agree with this. I’m tired of Linux fanboys on this site (no doubt 99% of them were spurred on to vote on a Linux site and have no intention on buying a dell anyways since by and large people who use Linux would build their own box). There should be a "no operating" system Dell that can be bought but I don’t want Dell wasting resources rolling out Linux desktop workstations that only under 1% of the public can use (servers are an exception). Hackers can buy a no-operating system version of a Dell and drop whatever of the million versions of Linux they want on it. Of course it will need to use some industry standard components due to the lack of driver support.
jmxz
04/05/07
Surprisingly, I agree. I think "horrible" should be based on objective measures like unpatched security holes.

Dell should have an option that it will refuse to run when ever the OS it's running has a reported security issue with no patch available from the manufacturer.

Dell would have a database of such issues & patches -- and until the OS vendor publishes a patch, for security reasons the computer would shut down immediately. As soon as the OS vendor publishes the patch it'd allow you to boot again so you can install the patch and continue using your computer securely.

Windows users would have a computer that works about 100 days in a year; and Debian Stable users would have one that works about 363 days a year -- but at least they'd be safe.
flooted
04/05/07
'Horrible' is such a relative term. I find Vista 'horrible', XP 'not bad and functional', MacOS 'pleasant to look at'. I don't know if Linux is horrible because I've never used it, but it is 'open and free' and I intend to use it for those reasons. I found Windows ME to be 'evil', 98 to be 'functional' and 95 to be 'transitional', yet 'dysfunctional'. I thought DOS was 'sadistic', and Windows 3.1 'a nice change but horribly depended on the sadistic DOS'. I liked Amiga because it was 'easy' and 'useful' and at the time 'innovative'.
jmxz
04/05/07
+1 on Amiga. Sad that things seemed to go down hill from there.

Of the Windows line, the Windows knowledgeable IT people here (I'm not one of them) consider Win2000 and WinNT the best of the Windows line - and tend to say that after that Microsoft started working against them more than for them.

Before NT systems were shockingly unstable (die after 49.7 days of uptime even if nothing's running - google for "49.7 days" if you don't believe me).

After Win2000 - Microsoft seemed more about locking down the system from IT to prevent ways they were using it (preventing hardware upgrades that might violate their definition of "the same system", limiting virtualization only to business use, software enforcing CPU/memory/disk limites on database versions) --- all essentially features to limit their users rather than features giving more functionality to their users.

phubert28
04/05/07
A bit late for this "suggestion' ... and certainly not one that would be useful to Dell at this point.

TOO LATE!!!
flooted
04/05/07
Right, too late, bad luck.
mrlinux11
04/05/07
Yes they should stop shipping Dells with Windows (All Versions) it is horrible
cosh
04/07/07
cosh
04/07/07
phubert28
04/10/07
Vista? How about ANY version of ANY Microsoft OS? Good for starters, huh?

andepiel45
04/10/07
I think this guy has never touch a end user focus Linux distro in his life, so, he just speaks without any knowledge at all? Vista is MAC OS X Clon, as everybody knows, and MAC OS is based on FreeBSD, pretty similar to Linux (same development platform for both OS, as Solaris, AIX, HP-UX, and whatever other Unix versions).

I agree that some distros are not focus for end users (like Debian, although it has the best package system), but one thing is the desktop, the other thing is the development platform (GNU, great since everybody uses the same development libraries, instead of hundreds of different libraries one coming from different companies, bloody hell) and the desktop as one integration application. You can run whatever the desktop you like in top of those things.

The key point on Linux is the GNU, not even the OS. Debian works on top of FreeBSD and Linux.

About the desktop, have you seen the SuSE KDE? Have you use it with Superkaramba (for widgets=gadgets)? Same features as Vista (including PC searching engine). Just wait KDE4 and you would see a great desktop over GNU that will be crossplatform, with same features as Vista or MAC, much more flexible and configurable, with common interfaces for mutimedia management. Just wait, and enjoy the product without cost.
jmxz
04/11/07
Looks like the bios companies are taking this idea

http://digg.com/linux_unix/Now_Bios_phoenix_that_are_crippled_to_work_ONLY_wi...
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2705017#post2705017< that of all idea storm ideas, this one voted -220 is the one that might be closest to being implemented.
ferose2
04/13/07
How about customizing the hardwares for Linux instead?
winoffice
07/02/07
Linux discounts are already available as of the time at which I wrote this comment. Therefore, I don't want to pay even more for Windows compared to how cheap Linux alreaady is (see jmxz's idea 'Dont't make Windows Dell prices higher just to make the Linux ones cost "less" '.
 
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