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310 points posted to Desktops by charliebird 07/30/07

I think the Small Form Factor case is the future of desktop computers. In that case size Dell needs to offer more configuration options, better selection of video cards and a competive price. An ideal configuration inside a small for factor case could be an Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor E6600, Nvidia Geforce LP 8600, 250 SATA Drive, 2 GB Ram, and a 8X Slimline DVD+/-RW. This configuration would suit the needs for 90% of the market.

reg 07/30/07	http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2970178683925412799&q=neo+cons+durati...< Promote for a smaller form factor for the federal government. RON PAUL 2008 !
jorge 07/30/07	dupe (the idea).
crysalidzzz 07/31/07	I'd buy one. It would be nice to have something good looking and not too big on the deskop next to the monitor. The usb and memory card slots would be easily available rather than having to bend down to a full sized desktop on the floor (where alot of people have their desktops). The form factor should be more shuttle-ish than the vertical xps sff Dell currenlty offers. Also it should come with a mini-pci wif card. Basically, take the best elements of mobile technology and combine them with desktop technology. People are much more aware of power consumption, heat and noise these days. They want something that can be considered quite green.
wallyhorse 07/31/07	That is excellent, though I would also include options for 3GB-4GB of RAM, which with Vista Ultimate in particular is probably needed.
maverick4ever 07/31/07	Smaller size equals poor expandability. By getting a small sized PC you're basically signing up to buy a new one in a few years. This is because once it gets outdated, it's very hard to find upgrade parts for it cus of its size. And frankly there is nothing ''green'' about a small PC like that because of the short life of it. A big PC in fact is much more green in that sense, since you can buy it once and keep upgrading it with ease for even as long as the next ten years. And most of all it's a matter of how power efficient the components are. As far as I know, there's really no difference in that between the components of a full size PC and a small PC.
jorge 07/31/07	SFF have a real keyboard and screen, yet can have regular components which are much cheaper than laptop components, they're less fragile, they can be placed away from the user as to isolate the computer from users who tend to mess with hardware (some of them), they are as energy efficient as a laptop. Users are less likely to ask if they can take it home due to having to lug the screen as well as the keyboard and mouse (saving me headaches due to permissions and what not), and I have more of a justified reason to deny them to take it home.
jorge 07/31/07	The places I use them are permanent fixtures, much like a board room table a fold out table doesn't do the job, especially when everyone leans their elbows on one side of the table. Laptops are used as desktop replacements but those users have a vital understanding how to deal with the cables and mess associated with it and how to properly un-docking their laptops, not all users can deal with an imperfect world. Not to mention changing from wired to wireless networks, or WWANs.
sheree 08/08/07	I love SFFs, but Dell, you gotta go back to the drawing board. Book-shaped PCs with laptop parts are only cool in mobile classrooms. There are other companies, rhyming with "scuttle" and "grapple" that know how to build a performance SFF worth buying. Dell, follow their lead!
reg 08/08/07	In the box Mac mini Apple Remote Power cord Install/restore DVDs Printed and electronic documentation Processor and memory 1.83GHz or 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor 2MB or 4MB on-chip L2 cache 667MHz frontside bus 1GB of 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (PC2-5300) on two SO-DIMMs; supports up to 2GB Size and weight Height: 2 inches (5.08 cm) Width: 6.5 inches (16.51 cm) Depth: 6.5 inches (16.51 cm) Weight: 2.9 pounds (1.31 kg) Peripheral connections One FireWire 400 port (8 watts) Four USB 2.0 ports (up to 480 Mbps) Graphics and video support Intel GMA 950 graphics processor with 64MB of DDR2 SDRAM shared with main memory1 DVI video output to support digital resolutions up to 1920 by 1200 pixels; supports 20-inch Apple Cinema Display and 23-inch Apple Cinema HD Display; supports coherent digital displays up to 154MHz; supports noncoherent digital displays up to 135MHz VGA video output (using included adapter) to support analog resolutions up to 1920 by 1080 pixels S-video and composite video output to connect directly to a TV or projector (using Apple DVI to Video Adapter, sold separately) Communications Built-in 10/100/1000BASE-T Gigabit Ethernet (RJ-45 connector) Built-in 54-Mbps AirPort Extreme wireless networking (based on 802.11g standard)3 Built-in Bluetooth 2.0 + Enhanced Data Rate (EDR) up to 3 Mbps Optional external Apple USB Modem Audio Built-in speaker Combined optical digital audio input/audio line in (minijack) Combined optical digital audio output/headphone out (minijack) Storage 80GB or 120GB 5400-rpm Serial ATA hard disk drive; optional 160GB drive2 One of the following optical drives: Slot-loading Combo drive (DVD-ROM/CD-RW): reads DVDs at up to 8x speed, writes CD-R discs at up to 24x speed, writes CD-RW discs at up to 16x speed, reads CDs at up to 24x speed Slot-loading SuperDrive with double-layer support (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW): writes DVD+R DL and DVD-R DL discs at up to 2.4x speed, writes DVD-R and DVD+R discs at up to 8x speed, writes DVD-RW and DVD+RW discs at up to 4x speed, reads DVDs at up to 8x speed, writes CD-R discs at up to 24x speed, writes CD-RW discs at up to 16x speed, reads CDs at up to 24x speed Electrical and environmental requirements Meets ENERGY STAR requirements Line voltage: 100-240V AC Frequency: 50Hz to 60Hz, single phase Maximum continuous power: 110W Operating temperature: 50° to 95° F (10° to 35° C) Storage temperature: -40° to 116° F (-40° to 47° C) Relative humidity: 5% to 95% noncondensing Maximum altitude: 10,000 http://www.apple.com/macmini/intel.html
drfelip Feb 27	I think upgradability is key. I like the SFF Inspiron, but the most powerful graphics card it can hold is a Radeon HD 2400. A good SFF computer should be able to hold 2 hard disks and a full-size graphics card, so it could be configured as an office machine or as a light-gaming one. That would require changing the case to something more cube-like, I think. If you know Shuttle XPCs (http://us.shuttle.com/Home.aspx) you know what I mean. Unupgradable SFF computers are only good for office work!

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