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Implement an Option of an Intel Core 2 Extreme and a Intel Core 2 Quad processor and the new PENRYN processor on XPS 1330 and 1530 and a higher Graphics Card 8700gt or above

1680 points posted to Sales Strategies, XPS products, Laptops by bryan14c Jan 9

dell should implement a Core 2 extreme processor as an option for the XPS 1330 and 1530 and a first quad core notebook , because the high end models have this , why not on the 1330 and 1530 XPS is high end right? and also why stick to 8600gt that there is a 8700gt or above graphics card , well the XPS 1530 and 1330 overall design is great slim light, well as an addition dell should also implement a PENRYN processor

daryldeal
Jan 21
hmm i hope its physically possible, but if is it would be great
redrubberpenguin
Jan 22
There's a lot of requests for uber-powerful graphics cards and processors in the smaller laptops... but it's just not possible. Smaller laptops can't cope with the amount of heat that those high-end options cause. Why do you think the XPS m1330 and Sony SZ BOTH top out at T7500's? Since it's been demanded for so long, SOMEONE would have done it already.
jafis
Feb 3
Needed: XPS1330 with >T9300, >8600GT, >SSD 128 GB soon!!!!!!!
sgogeta4
Feb 5
I concur with penguin, fitting bryan's ideas into a small chassis is simply impossible due to the heat output not being able to be dissipated. The "high end" XPS series is more for thin and light, and it has to sacrifice power. If you want those specs then you will have to look at the 1730 for desktop replacement.
daryldeal
Feb 7
maybe the 10++ series nvidia cards are smaller so that they'll fit in the laptop
bill_b
Feb 11
I think this idea is just a bit ahead of its time. As redrubberpenguin points out, there are serious heat implications when you try to put that kind of power into a smaller chasis- not to mention a larger ac adapter will be required, thus defeating one of the principle missions of the 1330 and 1530: mobility. The battery life would be way lower than the current spec as well. I think when better compact cooling systems, better battery technology, and a better way to make smaller ac adapters are developed, we will see that kind of hardware in a compact chasis. There also could be some work done on the oomponents themselves in the area of power consumption. Maybe someday soon the two initiatives can meet somewhere in the middle.
jorge
Feb 11
Yea, we'd hate to be ahead of time... lets instead take two steps back and use a Pentium M.
bill_b
Feb 11
I guess you can be sarcastic if you feel the need to, but I am just saying the existing supporting technology renders the idea untenable at this time, there needs to be some work on that technology. Sure we could put hotter processors and graphics chipsets in a small chasis, but until we can work out ways to cool them and make batteries last longer, you will have a flaming hot notebook with short battery life. The idea, as written, was to offer these components in chases that use the present supporting technology. That is simply not workable.
jorge
Feb 11
Its an idea! Geeze! If Dell would move a little faster in adding state of the art they may not be in 3rd place right about now, don't you think? Yes, those processors are hot, about as hot (most likely less) as the P4's used before (those didn't seem to limit Dell from using them). More power, yes, of course more power, remember those are Desktop replacement laptops (according to your marketing) so a little more power will be needed to be true desktop replacements in the future.

Remember you can always demote it if you don't like it, but putting Dell in a lesser position as you do really makes Dell look bad.
bill_b
Feb 11
I looked a little and could not find any mention in the marketing materials where either the 1330 or 1530 are positioned as desktop replacements. Maybe you could find that somewhere and post back. Besides, I am pretty confident cooling and battery technology will improve.
tad1214
Feb 11
While I understand this is physically challenging, Could we potentially get a 512mb 8600gt? I don't think another 256mb of memory would be impossible to squeeze in. The current 8600gt is just a touch slow for GH3, some added video memory would help with the large rendering of the crowd, etc.
crimson117
Feb 12
I think Dell is right to keep a distinction between XPS (performance with mobility) and their Alienware line (all out burn your lap gaming DTRs).

Once nVidia or AMD releases a faster chip that is still cool and low-power, I'm sure we'll see it in an XPS 15xx. Until then, buy an XPS 17xx which has more room for cooling, or trick out an Alienware and be prepared for some heat.

(just checked... a base level Area-51 m9750 with a 512MB NVIDIA GeForce 8700M GT is surprisingly affordable (US$1500 at time of this post).
crimson117
Feb 12
Tad1214: perhaps you could buy one yourself? (I have NO clue whether it's compatible :) )

I'm sure they could add 512mb version quite easily... however, with the 512mb version, you drop from DDR3 down to DDR2, so the performance gains of adding "more ram" might be compromised by the "slower ram".
igotratted
Feb 15
Dell needs to upgrade to penryn and add LED backlit displays. That is all i ask. I know it can be done but it seems that Dell is pretty complacent at being just another AVERAGE company. They don't do anything groundbreaking anymore and just follow others.
tad1214
Feb 19
8600GT as of right now is DDR2. :-\
bill_b
Feb 21
About Penryn: http://www.macmod.com/content/view/1165/240/
jorge
Feb 21
Dude, did you read your own post link? It has nothing to do with this idea... what gives?
friendfromms
Feb 25
All this is understandable for the 1330 (Which DOES have Penryn now)

Why doesnt 1530 STILL?

Dell, why cant you give us Penryn + 8700MGT or 9600M GT in a 1530, also why NO 1920x1280 display on the 1530?
Both IBM and HP are doing it, even Dell on the Latitude (Or offer Latitude with Penryn and 8700M GT/9600M GT).
gb
Feb 26
8700m GT surely could fit, and since form factors will decrease in size with 9600m GT surely its more likely the 8700m GT will fit?
q0987
Feb 26
Check this out to see how this idea can be implemented efficiently.
gb
Feb 28
This article further underlines the point that the m1530 deserves and needs the 9600m when released: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/167034/nvidia-geforce-9600-gt.html , while I understand this is the desktop variant I'm also aware the notebook "m" card is most likely being tested and unreleased, so DELL take note! My heart says 9600m in late summer m1530's but my head says typical dell, we'll see m1530 with 9500m cards.
tad1214
Feb 28
It would be 1920x1200 due to widescreen. I love my 1920x1200 on my Gen 1 XPS, but nearly everyone who uses my laptop complains about it, so I see there isn't much of a market for it. Interesting on the 9600 though....
fxi
Mar 15
Bill is quite correct it is not possible due to power and heat limitations in these form factors. Sadly you'll have to wait till Intel and Nvidia get more powerful products out that use less power till that happens. Not that it's not a nice wishlist though :)
tad1214
Mar 20
The 15" alienware has a single 8800 in it.
fxi
Mar 29
Apparently you are unfamiliar with the amount of Alienware's that die after a year due to heat...
sgogeta4
Mar 29
when alienware first released the m15x, they had many problems with heat and returns. I think they just recently managed to fix it, after a couple months out.
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